A little video on welding

Kinja'd!!! "StudyStudyStudy" (jesterjin)
05/31/2016 at 16:50 • Filed to: None

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I was trying to get in the habit of shooting footage so that I can try and capture some more interesting moments.

Turns out that while I was welding a couple holes shut on my door I went through every topic I usually cover when I am teaching some one to weld.

I do apologize for the sound, it is late, I have a cold, and my microphone is crummy. I added the voice over to explain rather then blocks of text, that might be preferable, I’m not sure what works better.

Hope that helps or is at least interesting. Feel free to ask questions, or comment on how things can be better or clearer. I’m completely new at videos so any advice would be great.

I plan on doing a much more tutorial type post down the line, I just figured this might be a little helpful for those who are new at this at least from the sound perspective.

Just to be clear, this is pretty bad behavior, not a how to, more of a how not to and how to slowly correct problems as they show up.


DISCUSSION (24)


Kinja'd!!! crowmolly > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 16:59

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Why no gloves?


Kinja'd!!! Echo51 > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 17:00

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Shouldn’t you have covered up the window glass?


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 17:00

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Don’t know why but I can barely hear you with all my volumes up highest.

I can’t believe you’re not wearing gloves. I watched so I know your friend had them, but I would’ve waited till they were available. I was welding overhead and slag dropped between my welding jacket and chest - hopping around to get that jacket off might have been funny to watch but it hurt.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 17:02

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What’s the amp rating of your welder? How low are your settings? I assume you’re using 0.23 wire?


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > crowmolly
05/31/2016 at 17:02

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I can’t blame him - I rarely do gloves either on thin stuff. I like to be able to get an idea of heat going where it shouldn’t and to feel whether I have pieces lined up right as I’m tacking them. I have a high enough pain tolerance that the occasional burn doesn’t really phase me. *shrug*.


Kinja'd!!! crowmolly > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/31/2016 at 17:06

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Yeah, I can tell it’s not juiced up based on the sound of the arc, so NBD, but a n00b might not know that.


Kinja'd!!! RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > crowmolly
05/31/2016 at 17:07

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Above a certain level of power, the sparks go away, but the workpiece heat and the arc sunburn will fuck up your hand real good....


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > Echo51
05/31/2016 at 18:40

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The sparks cool pretty quickly and the glass is above my welding area, I probably should have, but I didn’t have a problem with the last door I did the same way.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/31/2016 at 18:43

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That is what I was afraid of. The microphone I was using was really bad and would blow out with S’s and P’s so I had to talk clearly while not trying to blow out the sound level. I probably should invest in a decent microphone.

I still have the scar to prove that was a bad idea. This is just that, a video showing how to do everything wrong pretty much. Good learning tool I think.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/31/2016 at 18:45

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0.23 wire, it is a 120 volt so not too much amperage. It is a hobart handler 140 if my memory is correct. I was running it at 1 out of 4 for the amperage with I think about 30 wire speed, flipping it up to 2 helped a bit.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/31/2016 at 18:49

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Pretty much on the money. I used to share gear with someone and after having to wait to swap gloves and aprons and masks, I kind of learned to get by without them.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > crowmolly
05/31/2016 at 18:50

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Friend was using my set. I probably should get a nicer set of tighter fitting gloves, this was more of a spur of the moment kind of thing, friend was working on his car and invited me over and picked up my door so I could keep occupied since he had my welder. I wasn’t going to keep trading him gear, so I just went without.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > crowmolly
05/31/2016 at 19:00

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That is a good point, I do recommend people wear them as I state in the voice over, this is indeed bad things, not checking gas, not checking welder settings, not wearing gloves, blowing through etc.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 19:16

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Thanks, I’ve got an Eastwood 175 running 240v. I’ve never done any auto body welding and am worried my welder wouldn’t be able to go low enough not to just make a ton of wholes.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 19:20

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If you do more of these, get that new mike! Aside from the sound, it wasn’t bad (faint praise I know). It was almost comedy. And for welding noobs like me, I did find it educational. Thanks!

And if you do overhead welding of an exhaust flex pipe to downpipe while on the car - do a similar video of tips! That was HARD! I ended up using a bendable dental type mirror to see the top of the connection and bought a flex neck MIG gun.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/31/2016 at 19:22

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I’ll have to look up the 175, but my friend has an Eastwood 200 that he has used to do a bunch of auto welding. If you are just doing cosmetic, you really only need to make the panel stick, you can use a bunch of little tricks to keep it from blowing through like using a thicker patch or using a flanged end.

Prepost edit: oh the 175 is a mig welder vs the 200 which is a tig, the stats say you can weld 24 gauge which is much thinner then most things you will find on a car, 20 gauge is fairly standard.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
05/31/2016 at 19:37

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Thanks that is really helpful!

Overhead welding, ugh, I did that for 4-6 months, I have slag embedded in my old face shield and learned the hard way to wear a beanie when welding when I heard the sound of my ear wax sizzling.

For exhaust, tack in place and pull of the car. It is soo much easier, that was one of the reasons my friend had the mig was to weld up a new muffler, tip, and hangers.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 23:49

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Agree, would have been easy off the car. This was my friends 2001 Audi A8. The flex pipe connects to the downpipes and to disconnect the downpipe, getting to the bolts is kind of like having to work with sticking your hand up someone’s colon - incredibly tight, convoluted space using like 2 extensions and 3 flex joints on your ratchet.

That 4.2 V8 is shoehorned into the D2 A8. We figured it was easier to semi-blindly weld the top of the flex pipe using a mirror rather than try to disconnect the downpipes.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
05/31/2016 at 23:51

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Thanks for looking that up for me! Something I could have done myself if it had occurred to me. Sorry!


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
06/01/2016 at 02:32

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If you did it the way you said with a mirror to double check I think that is fine. I’m leaning more towards just doing things off the car if possible, makes it much easier to do a nicer job, but Audi’s are legendary for being super convoluted to take menial parts off of, friend had an allroad, pretty much engine has to come out for the smallest parts.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
06/01/2016 at 02:33

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No worries, it looks like a very nice starting welder coming with the spool gun and all. I think my next welder will be a Tig for sure so it was nice to just lookup stats for welders again.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
06/01/2016 at 13:07

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Mirror was actually to see where the joint was at the top. Double check to see if the weld sealed was running the car, plugging up the tailpipe and feeling/hearing for leaks. It was difficult - for me.

There’s a shop in the poorer part of town where they can actually weld and can quickly and easily do all these exhaust welds with it on the car. That’s not me. Let us know if get that figured out.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > StudyStudyStudy
06/01/2016 at 13:09

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Which TIG are you thinking of getting? That’s been on my mind for a while too. I was looking at the Eastwood TIG just because of the dramatic price increase when you go to a name brand.


Kinja'd!!! StudyStudyStudy > VincentMalamute-Kim
06/03/2016 at 18:58

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That is the same unit I was looking at. To be honest though I don’t have room for it, maybe when I get a bigger garage with a 220 hookup.